Interestingly the barrel looks different. And many departments across the country have had to lower their standards for passing qualifications just to be able to hire on and keep officers. As the round is stripped from the magazine it is pushed up the feed ramp and into the partially extracted round still hanging out the back of the barrel. The service includes the following. What a wonderful parody of a MAC cultist! Before they got to it. While it seems that I have a preference for battle ships, The Romulans had Warbirds. To make the striker leg pull off of the sear, you would have to impart a lot of rearward momentum and stop it suddenly. NO. Not only is it now the designated sidearm of all branches of the U.S. military, there are over a million of them in civilian hands. May 25, 2016 in Sig. Just because someone shoots hyper-unrealistic 3 gun competition, subscribes to Recoil magazine and routinely watches their fave rave YouTube cult of personality channel shill for the latest company that paid him off doesnt make them a [emailprotected]$$. The modular SIG P320 is among the most widely-owned handguns on the planet. The first thing to note about the P320 XTen is that it is, in fact, a P320. (unless theyre SWAT or something). The gun ran better then it has but instead of stove pipes out of about 120 rounds she had about 4-6 fte but with these fte was almost like the ejector didnt even attempt to grab the case. Doesn't happen with any of the other calibers / kits. 1) The p320 doesnt hold the striker fully to the rear. congrats. MGW carries a vast array of replacement slides, barrels, magazines, sights, grip modules, pins, springs and other small parts for this handgun. I call Sig hoping to send it in for repairs, they told me to try different ammo. A lot like carrying a cocked and locked 1911 but with the safety off. I wouldnt be surprised if she did it intentionally, she clearly suffers from a serious case of media whoring. Im reading about a moron who wraps a loaded firearm in a cloth and stuff it in a gym bag, and other dumb behavior that tells me the weapon isnt the problem but the user. I chalk it up to a piece of brass that was probably already significantly compromised. And N310 is yet faster burning powder, where you are guaranteed higher peak pressure for the same velocity with the same bullet at the same OAL, and 165gr is yet a heavier bullet, where you get greater pressure increases per tenth of a grain of powder, so less forgiving. So the tally goes against the surrounding area, not against the gun free zone. Canadian soldier wounded by accidental discharge used wrong holster: SIG Sauer If the gangster greed monger criminal Capitalvanians in the gun industry had their products under the jurisdiction of the consumer safety administration all the newer striker fired guns would never have been allowed on the market unless they had manual safeties and a safe take down system. Where is this lightning striking twice? Was it his fault? Upload or insert images from URL. This is this same company that couldnt build their own freaking rifles after multiple attempts (Sig SG550 series) when that rifle had been made in Switzerland for years without issue. I was tempted to buy one at one time but no more. As for Seals they have their own contract with Glock but can carry anything they want. Google Keith Slatowski, is he lying also? You cannot paste images directly. Still having the same exact Type 3 Malfs every other round. Quite frankly, a sizable number of the LEOs that go there, would benefit from a Gun Safety 101 class. People of the Gun are probably familiar with the early problems the P320 had regarding drop safety. POLISHED SILVER | Polished CrN. Theres a couple of possibilities. Right up front, the use of an ill-fitting/improper-for-the-gun holster instantly negates any idea of an unintended discharge being the fault of the design. . The use of a modified [SIG] P226 holster created an unsafe condition by allowing a foreign object to enter the holster, causing the unintended discharge.. I expect a handgun to run anything I put in it, within reason; I do not believe expecting the gun to run with steel case to be unreasonable. Holding the striker fully cocked with nothing to block it if the sear fails is questionable at best. Fired case is extracted about a quarter of an inch. So it never had a history of a potential valid claim for ambulance chasers to work off of. There goes 1/3 of the shooting season. This reminds me of when Gretchen Carlson sued Fox News for sexual harassment and she got 20 million dollars. yes. This is the only post fix tale of p320 failure I have heard that is not some form of but it just went off, I didnt do nutthin! Yes, even lightly polished the top and bottom to prevent binding. ( could just be standard answer for the question. But it hardly indicts the P320 as a badly engineered weapon or that its worse than another brand. Extractor's gone somewhere. P320 Extractor Design Change. These officers are not gunfighters. After watching a friend get killed by a Remington 700 by another friend and the ensuing fallout 31 years ago I decided that I didnt care if the P320 was fixed, it was getting sold. SIG is choosing to litigate their problems away. Get a dead trigger when the striker breaks. Happy with my old S&W revolvers, 3rd Gen S&W pistols,1911s and a slew of P226s. SOOOO excited! OK, in answer to all of the above questions. This part is a high-quality replacement internal extractor for specific versions of the P220 and most X5 models. The pictures on the internet were enough to scare the shit out of you especially his wound in the thigh. I'm not sure how long it is really going to take. NHPR is nonprofit and independent. This Extractor is designed to fit perfectly in most standard 9mm Sig P320 models. I continue to bet my life on them. The new trigger mechanism is less likely to fire without the trigger being pulled, making the P320 much safer to use. The SIG P320 has been the subject of numerous lawsuits, including one class action case, in the U.S. over injuries sustained because of accidental discharges. The drop-bang thing only happened at a very narrow event window, it was only once the Internet doom-preachers figured out that narrow window and did it over and over online did it appear to be a thing. Sig adapted and changed the pistol sufficiently to prevent even that issue. The more someone touches, loads, clears, cleans, holsters, un-holsters, or otherwise deals with their firearm, the higher the statistical likelihood that complacence kicks in. This is the goal of those who would disarm us at the Post Office, as we take little Yevgeniy or little Shaquina to school, as we fulfill our civic responsibilities as jurors to judge our peers, as we travel to and through less free jurisdictions. It might only take a little bridging in the powder drop so that a cartridge gets an extra .2gr. There used to be a problem, which is why Sig fixed it. You can post now and register later. Do you have an FFL closer to you than the FedEx hub? You may have a P220, .38 Super with a carbon steel slide. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Dont quote the four rules of safety in your article when all the hotness in the gun world is appendix carry pointing something at an extremity and the photos you use showing front slide serrationsputting your hands fingers near the business end of the barrel, because press checks from the front is the way all the cool operator guys do it. Your previous content has been restored. What it likely means is that cops and other law enforcement officers carry and handle their guns far more often than the average Joe or Jane. A federal agent in Delaware introduced a $10 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer this year. This is just blind greed using some careless doofus to sell a lie and cash in because a civil jury, like the average American voter, can be manipulated easily though emotion, tears and stories of anguish, pain and suffering at the foot of some super-rich evil corporations cold-blooded behest. Period. Have you ever noticed that big trouble usually comes in groups of 3. He said hes a gun owner and a concealed carry permit holder. I lost $200 on a gun that had less then 1000 rounds through it but I could care. They simply have never been seen in the upper echelon of handgun makers, their entire business model is to offer cheaper guns at cheaper prices. Ill go so far as to say the first batch of Sig P320s did nothing wrong. Jan 2019. They wouldnt have adopted it if was. The chamber on the 320's is horribly unsupported and a questionable design in my opinion. Customer Service can be reached at (603)610-3000 Option 1, from Monday through Friday, 8:30 a.m. through 6:00 p.m. EST. I sent thousands of these rounds through Glocks, 1911s, 2011, PCC, Tanfo Stock 2. with no issues. With the redesign, you would have to implement a LOT of force to move the trigger backwards. No autographs, No self taken pictures. Feed ramp was polished from use when it went out but looked freshly blued when it came back. At least the Gorilla is still evolving while the Far Right proved to be an evolutionary dead end, one of natures mistakes. $55.00. The design was incorporated from Bruce Grays trigger kit around the time of the original drop safety fix. Thanks for the replies guys and gals. While you are at it swap extractor springs and rods as well. A little variance in the powder drop combined with a lower volume case and you get a round on the high end of the pressure scale for the load. I've been using 120 bayou .358 dia. Got a whole lot more than the handful you've got pictured too! In the former case, you would need upward movement coming to a sudden stop to bump up the drop safety at the same time you imparted rearward momentum to the gun to try and move the striker. The guys at the LGS saw only one broken striker but it confirmed what the manager who had the P320 go off and my thoughts. Tried different ammo? The P320 9mm compact was known to have issues with failure to extract. Thats like telling the cop you were only going 5 over, not 10. 3. Fitting, gauging, and range testing. UPDATE: 7-6-16 So, received my P320 9F back from Sig Sauer. Have you ever put a handgun down with your palm in front of the muzzle? SIG just cannot seem to make a striker fired pistol that doesnt have issues. I know I'm reviving an old thread here as well. USA. It doesnt matter whether SIG is at fault or not. The P320 9mm compact was known to have issues with failure to extract. Yaaay! If you can make the trigger move backwards, all bets are off. Each time this gun misfires, and fires without the users intent, it is not only harming that individual, but these guns are a risk to anybody around, said Bob Zimmerman, a Philadelphia-based attorney with the firm Saltz Mongeluzzi & Bendesky, which is representing the plaintiffs in the latest filing, and has repeatedly sued the company for other alleged injuries. ALL OF THEM. Upon examination, the shell had a scratch on the rim. One of the officers a few years ago was carrying his P320 in a P226 holster that he took a Dremel to make the P320 fit. Especially since they farm it out to the lowest bidder. Thats the American system at work in all its corrupt majesty. The one officer in the ABC story had it wrapped in a rag in his gym bag? A holstered base P320 allegedly had a mysterious accidental discharge without pulling the trigger. (The defect couldnt be duplicated after the crash.). Thank yall for your input. New to the forum from the great state of Georgia! Theres still the P938 extractors snapping they refuse to acknowledge. I went to an outdoor public range with a local SWAT entry team leader. I purchased a Sig P320C 9mm in November 16, i finally got to shoot it in Dec and now February. After some research, it appears the P320 Compact 9mm (and only the P320 Compact 9mm) has a known problem w/all weights of Blazer Brass. Going on Sigs reputation I bought a P320. Not sure why it wont let me reply to you, but Ill reply to myself in the hope youll get it. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. BTW it was HK that made the first polymer gun, Glock actually stole the idea for the G17 from them. The investigation revealed the use of an incorrect holster not designed for a [SIG] P320, said the statement, which was released Friday and posted to a U.S. online pro-industry publication, Soldier Systems. Give me a break. The problems associate with those pistols (and the P365) have long since been ironed out. Thats SIGs term for a recall. Thats just myopic brand lust on parade. Thanks, Jim. If these same folks were around in the 80s and got their way, no one today would know what a Glock was. In this article, you will find the fix to these problems. Companies stay silent They habitually use their customers as the product testers by selling what are essentially prototypes while quietly implementing rolling revisions. Golly didnt Sig catch he!! And yes, if I pulled some of those stunts, Id have my membership revoked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsu6WsSQ2_g. I wish nothing bad on anyone carrying regardless of brand. So does any of this mean theres something wrong with the P320? does your striker release out of battery? Maybe in South America a poor military did, but thatd be about it. Its also interesting that theres apparently no corresponding flood of civilian lawsuits against SIG with similar claims of guns going off, even though the public owns far more P320s than do law enforcement agencies. The X5 I borrowed will release out of battery, if you were into the lands and released out of battery that'd be a pretty big problem. How about something more relevant. Yes, conspiracy to defraud is a thing when ones @ss is on the line. The Defiant regardless of who is the captain. The company also recently successfully blocked a proposed class action lawsuit that centered on financial harm for P320 owners. Really? No you haters are not smarter than the US military, who tested the P320 far more than your favorite YouTuber ever did. TACTICALRELOAD-The 4 to 6 week time frame was given to me by customer service rep. Profits over reliability and you end up with junk. This gun has had thousands of rounds through it. Bagnell is representing a number of the police officers who have filed suits against SIG for un-commanded discharges, but wouldnt disclose the exact number. Both of my P320 carry's developed extraction issues. Its a compounded issue of weakened cases and the chamber design. Once SIG SAUER receives your P320 pistol, they will apply the upgrades, test it, and then return it to you free of charge. I don't think this has a bearing in this case because I tried Federal factory premium loads and Winchester factory loads as well as my hand loads. But this time, the sound bites used were different. Greatly decreases optic related issues Retains Optic. Depending on who you talk to you will get many different answers. I still love my Sig so I really hope everything works out. Yes, swapped with my 9mm compact. It's a little disappointing because I was a huge fan. The Moron engineer who decided to put that on the Glock should have been hung by his dirty balls. On Thursday, M.D. Firing Pin Retaining Pin, Spiral -250. . Yes including 3 factory loads and 5 different hand loads. Other then that this gun has function without any stoppages. Had a buddy, years ago, that was a deputy for Orange County in California. I dont consider the drop-bang issue a failure and Sigs response was actually above any real need, except to perhaps deflect any easy wins for slime ambulance chasers I get that. The P320 was known to discharge if dropped on the striker plate at a certain angle. So I think it is unconscionable, given the number of incidents of this gun defectively discharging without a trigger pull, would necessitate that someone order it to be recalled and only SIG can do that.. Fine. . Limp wristing? That is exactly why all civilized countries have Government Agencies that monitor companies that have a callus disregard for human life and are only interested in the quick buck. Anyway there was one good thing to come from those movies, The USS Vengeance. Brought mine March of 15 as well. Enough to recall pretty much all of Oklahoma state troopers and reissue a new one. Just wanted to share an experience I had with my new X5 in CO. To share the setup, I had Robert Burke do his competition trigger job which feels great; I also have a tungsten guide rod, other than that, the gun is stock. He had to be reprimanded by the range officer twice for unsafe handling of his pistol. I agree that Glock is sitting on their laurels and has been for decades. In fact, I dont own ANY striker fired polymer pistol. Including winchester white box,and aluminum, no steel. None of the current lawsuits appear to be in any way related to the now-fixed drop safety issue and most, if not all of the allegations seem to involve upgraded pistols or those produced after the drop safety problem was identified by SIG. It SHOULD have more engagement width wise, but often doesnt due to things being rounded or out of square. Sig Sauer P320 comes in an exposed hammer version for Military use. We'll see what happens now. Stoppage occurs any where from the 3rd round to the 10th round. Being highly trained doesnt eliminate stupidity. Jeff Bagnell, a lawyer in Westport, Conn., who has litigated 10 cases, mostly by commercial gun owners, related to SIG P320 misfires across several U.S. states, took note of the accident involving the Canadian special forces soldier. As they should. fabes_ 6 yr. ago Not sure if the FTE is related to the feeding problems people see with certain ammo, but check out this link, it MAY be what you need to see. So are dumb(or arrogant) cops. Thats like telling the cop you were only going 5 over, not 10. ), and the gun fell out of his pocket. Give today. Both were sent back to Sig and fixed. Display as a link instead, I have a 320 gen 1. That being the case, the 320 is a cocked and locked striker-fired gun; However, it only has two safeties, unlike, say, a 1911, which has four: An inertial firing pin, a positive firing-pin locking safety, a manual sear-locking/blocking safety, and a trigger-bar-blocking grip safety. World renowned and the choice for many of the premier global military, law enforcement and commercial users. He was happy to find this post and that it confirmed that he felt the case support looked inadequate. The most common problems with the SIG P320 X5 Legion are recoil spring issue, slide locking/FTE due to lack of lube, battery blowing out issues and outgassing issues. Even if it was an issue with the sear interface, there is still a firing pin safety that will not move unless the trigger is held firmly to the rear. PDs are dropping them from contracts. He would have been booted after the first time, but being a cop comes with some special privileges. Yes, a lot of police officers only shoot when they have to for qual. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. There are a few examples, I admitS&Ws M&P from around 2014 were near junk and I wouldnt have bothered to own one as a trotline weight, but apparently S&W had righted that ship since then. Its not happening on your person without some catastrophic event. Sig made a subtle change to the length of the extractor spring, and the geometry of the extractor claw. When Villani was asked for his opinion of SIG Sauer, he said, I carry SIGs, I own SIGs, I just dont own a 320nor would I ever. When Scott asked Villani what he found when he took a P320 apart, he said, I thought Wow, they need to do their homework, they need to fix this gun.. SATIN COPPER | Matte ZrCN. Fourth, no one takes Taurus seriously. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. If this were a car, a phone, a refrigerator, it would have been recalled long ago. There are tens of millions of gun owners, far more than there are cops, and the VAST majority of those folks buy their guns and drop them a nightstand drawer or up on a closet shelf and leave it until theyre needed. You cannot paste images directly. Sig Sauer has previously settled some lawsuits involving alleged discharges. Quit blaming cops or the military, these guns have a serious problem. The main difference is that the M&P never had the problem the p320 did with trigger mass. Just ordered all new parts from Top Gun Supply. If you think of anything else, post it and I will reply. But 2 hour drive to the Fedex hub. Includes: -Extractor-Extractor Pin-Extractor spring Either the gun is defective or its not. Still, it's incumbent on us to follow up our reviews with some of the reported problems and legal actions affecting the P320. Same results. Right. Capitol Police Officers Explanation for Shooting and Killing Ashli Babbitt Is Riddled With Problems, The City of Wichita Raked In Almost $200,000 Selling Seized Guns in the Last Five Years, Fifth Circuit Finalizes Ruling In Favor of Plaintiff in Cargill v. Garland, Legalizes Bump Stocks in Three States, Patriot Picket Lets Marylanders Know What to Expect From the Legislatures Bruen Response Bill, New From ShaloTek: P320 Compensated Slide, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-ZZ6pynGLM, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/dea-agent-lee-paige-still-wont-go-away/, https://sofrep.com/news/dod-evaluation-says-armys-new-sig-sauer-p320-service-pistol-riddled-issues/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0LUbLu6TqA, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsu6WsSQ2_g, https://millsentertainment.smugmug.com/William-Shatner-The-Wrath-of-Khan. Possible causes of that: My gun just went off! That focus drifts. The thing is, youd probably need to generate many Gs of force in both directions simultaneously. Thanks for reading. One, the energy necessary to lift the striker-securing safety plunger may be insufficient due to a too-weak spring, or a too-light plunger, or some other design flaw, to reliably engage the plunger where it belongs. Sig made a subtle change to the length of the extractor spring, and the geometry of the extractor claw. That seemed to help for a while. Make sure the parts are installed correctly. But on 2to3 lbs of that so far. I called Sig and the rep said the X5 is designed to do exactly that, blow out the extractor to save other vital parts,whenever there is an over pressure situation. Thats why the US Marines have Sigs. Weird how that might happen. Why you and I are arguing over a gun that neither owns or will own, Police officers do NOT get a lot of training unless theyre doing it on their own time at their own expense. They didnt see a problem at all and in fact, saw it as an upgrade over Glock. If yours doesn't look like that in some way, you probably have a problem that is going to need to involve Sig CS. 3. The SIG will be the shortest military contract for guns in history. SIG ultimately settled that lawsuit. Too expensive to use their customers as beta testers. Which in and of itself is user error / misuse. Fair enough. I dunno if its a case of lowest bidders blues or what. Viewing from the top down, there is a hole in the top of the slide with a roll-pin installed in the hole. Vihtavuori doesn't publish data for even N320 with a 147gr plated bullet, much less N310, so not only is this N310, it's with an even heavier 165gr bullet. The second version emphasized the upgrade to fix the drop safety issue and notes that Harrison believes that problem has been fixed. This highly trained Fibbie was doing flips while dancing (breakdancing? The weapons are currently on the shelf and the soldiers have returned to using their older model SIG P226s. https://sofrep.com/news/dod-evaluation-says-armys-new-sig-sauer-p320-service-pistol-riddled-issues/. Not sure if the FTE is related to the feeding problems people see with certain ammo, but check out this link, it MAY be what you need to see. It was expensive. OR some gorilla with more brawn than brains ignored the 40lb trigger pull they suddenly had to break the tab. Features & Specifications of SIG P320 X5 Legion: SIG P320 X5 Legion If it fails, you're kind of screwed. LIGHT LOADS? Sound familiar? This is why we now have back up safeties on garden tractors and riding lawn mowers. And then theres Gunter Walker, a civilian, who says his P320 fired on its ownwhen he placed the weapon down on his nightstand, shooting him through the palm of his left hand.. While good firearms training and practices among law enforcement officers is certainly the case much of the time, weve seen far too many instances over the years of un-safe or downright dangerous practices by allegedly highly trained individuals to apply that kind of blanket endorsement to all cops or alphabet agency employees. SIG Sauer factory Extractor Pin for the P320. The problem affecting the original P320 is what the gun industry calls an "unintended discharge," or as one lawsuit against Sig Sauer explains: "The weapon fires without a trigger pull.". That show with no Shatner-Kirk and only a Nimoy-Spock wouldnt have gotten past the first season. This guy had been working at the LGS for over a decade and never had an AD or ND, he was the strictest when it came to safety. The company didnt want to comment on any specific pending litigation for obvious reasons. While we dont have the actual numbers of similar lawsuits filed against other gun makers actually no one individual or organization seems to keep track of these things and gun makers dont want to talk about it it seems highly likely that every major firearm manufacturer gets its share of a regular flow of lawsuits filed by both civilians and LEOs who claim SHAZAM! 2. I have no idea. Pack up a complete gun, including one of my FCUs so now I'm down to one. Later when he was driving he shifted his weight and this caused the trigger to be pushed back further and it went off and shot him and the bullet then also blew a big hole in the floor board of this truck. These lawsuits ARE about SIG making defective weapons. SIG brought us into their testing facility today and demonstrated that three upgraded P320s were all functional and fired properly. Dang, I thought my 320 was the only one that swaged a belt on 9mm cases! Ive putabout 2000 rounds through it no issue, but the other day I was at the range and had a case separation. Were not the only ones who have noticed the lawsuits. Pasted as rich text. Got a 40 SW P320 SC on my hip now, got one in 9mm within reach, so far neither has decided to trip the sear without my help. The baseline P320 has endured some problems. At this point I would have to say that Taurus is a better handgun. The second, longer version of the ABC story again included comments from Joshua Harrison, the consultant ABC hired to independently assess the P320. So, I have a new p320 build.-New Sig Frame-New Norsso Slide-New PMM Barrel-New Sig Recoil Spring Assembly-Re-using firing pin, trigger group, extractor/spring out of my well-used P320 X-Five . The new guy sucks. Attorney Bagnell held up the law enforcement officers he represents as examples of people who are highly trained in carrying and using firearms. The military has found that the pistol has a tendency to eject live rounds among other issues. But as Officer Hilton says, There is no way anything could have gotten into my purseinto the trigger guard and pulled that trigger., This ABC report includes an interview with Joshua Harrison, a firearms expert hired by the network to examine the P320s design and give his opinion of its safety. In a straight up Glock vs. Sig battle, the United States Marines chose Sig, and that was AFTER watching the P320 perform for four years. Its interesting that ABC chose to leave that point out of one of their reports. A full-length external extractor. Had the issues where the round fired but the case failed to eject. . Cars have so many electronics these days, who knows what could have gone wrong! Another possible cause is using light loads where the slide isn't cycling far enough to hit the ejector. A former U.S. Marine and federal agent has filed a $10 million lawsuit against Sig Sauer Inc. alleging that his holstered Sig P320 -- a pistol that the Army's new sidearm is based on . Yes (7) Inspected the extractor? An x-ray (fluoroscope) of the mechanism in operation could show what, if anything, is happening inside the gun that might prove, or disprove, the contention that the gun is flawed. Harrison responded, No, I dont think the upgraded version should be recalled, in fact I think the previous version should be recalled so that everyone has the upgraded version.. It might only take a little bridging in the powder drop so that a cartridge gets an extra .2gr. It sounds the same as arguing whether Captain Marvel could beat Superman up in a fist fight its pretty absurd and laughable. On 320 based guns, make sure the ejector has not been bent up or otherwise damaged. I seem to remember one failure some time ago. Occasional kabooms are a predictable outcome. I mean hey, yelling about firearms preferences online is no more productive than discussing nerdy Star Trek stuff, is it? The VIP screening with the meet and greet was like $600. In 2021 you would think a company would understand MIM metallurgy. All with VV310. I too think its ammo related. 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